The 1971 AIDS flowchart coordinates over 20,000 scientific papers and fifteen years of progress reports of a secret federal virus development program. The epidemiology of AIDS is an identical match to the "research logic" identified in the five section foldout. The flowchart is page 61 of Progress Report #8 (1971) of the Special Virus program of the United States of America. We today, challenge world scientists to discussion of this document find. We believe there is a daily, growing number of world experts who are all coming to the same conclusion regarding the significance of the flowchart. Dr. Garth Nicolson has examined the flowchart as well as other top notch experts from around the world. It is time for Dr. Michael Morrissey of Germany to examine the flowchart and report to the world. In addition, we have now examined the 1978 report. It is heresy to continue to further argue the program ended in 1977. The 1978 report of the development of AIDS leaves no doubt as to the ("narrow result") candidate virus sought by the United States. The flowchart conclusively proves a secret federal plot to develop a "contagious cancer" that "selectively kills."

Following the presentation of the flowchart in Canada, the same information was presented to the United States in the rotunda of the Western Reserve Historical Society in Cleveland. Shortly thereafter a major African newspaper called and for four days in a row, this issue was the feature story in an uncensored press. The people of Africa already know about the U.S. virus development program. It is time for the rest of us to know.

In January, the U.S. had no response to my two page abstract submitted to the African American AIDS 2000 conference. In February, the U.S. Congress had no response to the 3000 Americans who signed signature petitions calling for immediate review of the flowchart and progress reports of the secret virus development program. We firmly believe once the dust settles from the current election marathon, reviewing the special virus program will be the single most important pursuit of the 21st Century.

More scientists and doctors must join with Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Strecker, Dr. Cantwell, Dr. Horowitz, Dr. Lee, Dr. Wainwright, Dr. Halstead and Professor Boyle. In any public debate on this issue, we will continue to present the flowchart of the secret virus development program, as the "irrefutable missing link" in the true laboratory origin of AIDS. We have successfully navigated a federal maze and matrix and found a curtain surrounding the issue of AIDS. The 1999 discovery and presentation of the AIDS flowchart is a "smoke detector" wake up call. Society has an obligation to do more than don masks.

Non-inclusive random endnotes:

U.S. Special Virus program, Progress Report #8 (1971), pg. 61 (the flowchart)

National Security Defense Memorandum (NSDM) #314, Brent Scowcroft (1975).

"Special Message to the U.S. Congress on Problems of Population Growth", Richard M. Nixon, July 18, 1969

Public Law 91-213, "To Stabilize World Populations", John D. Rockefeller, III, Chairman, March 16, 1970

National Security Council Memorandum (NSCM) #46, "Black Africa and the U.S. Black Movement", Zbigniew Brezinski, March 17, 1978

Download/Open Flow Chart

(average download time: 4 minutes)

17334 have downloaded the Flow Chart since February 15, 2001. To see a list of names Boyd E. Graves has provided a copy of the Flow Chart to and their responses .

1971 SPECIAL VIRUS FLOW CHART NATIONAL TV, U.S. CONGRESS

(U.S.A) International human rights activist Dr. Boyd E. Graves presented the 1971 U.S. Special Virus Flowchart on national television during an interview with veteran talk show host Carl Bryant on DYNAMICS IN BLACK weekly television program today. Dr. Graves is the discoverer of the secret 30 year old Research Logic Flow Chart which coordinates 15 years and 20,0000 secret virus development experiments.

The program's "research logic" details the creation and mass production of a new hybrid human retrovirus which depletes the human immune system. Dr. Graves says the secret virus program which officially concluded 1978 mass produced 60,000 liters of new viruses, and is responsible for today's global HIV/AIDS crisis. The evidence he presents are the actual NIH/NCI government contracts for the secretly tax payer funded biochemical weapons program, U.S. Special Virus Cancer Program (162-1978). The second part of Dr. Graves and the U.S. Special Virus Flow Chart interview airs next Sunday.

"They have allowed pieces of the program to come out. In 1972 all concentration was to the Tuskegee Experiment, as if it was an isolated incident," says Dr. Graves. Now we know they were testing AIDS on Icelandic sheep in 1932 and 1933 - they are not disjointed experiments. They have been studying African sexual issues for the entire 20th century." Dr. Graves v. The President of the United States of America U.S. Supreme Court Case No. 00-9587 demanding an immediate review of the U.S. Special Virus Flow Chart and the secret experiments the Flow Chart coordinates was denied without comment June 4, 2001. The Flow Chart has been reviewed and authenticated by medical doctors and scientists around the world since its 1999 discovery.

Dr. Graves has demanded an immediate program review from top government officials and the scientist still living who were involved in the Special Virus program, including AIDS 'co-discoverer' Dr. Robert C. Gallo. During a February telephone interview, Dr. Gallo acknowledged his role as Special Virus Project Officer and his experiments which inoculated African Green Monkeys in 1971 inside the special virus program. Dr. Gallo could not explain the Multiply Spliced VISNA virus found inside AIDS to Dr. Graves. Dr. Gallo state he had been previously unaware of the U.S. Special Virus program's 1971 Flow Chart. Now Gallo has been briefed on the 1971 Special Virus Flow Chart and his specific contracts NIH71-2025 U.S. Special Virus Cancer Program 1971 Progress Report #8 Pages 104 & 105 with the direct allegations which resulted.

This year Dr. Graves initial court interrogatories established the fact that NCI Deputy Director and U.S. Special Virus Cancer Program Director, Dr. Alan Rabson agreed that the U.S. Special Virus program had the technology to make AIDS, but could not confirm that it 'actually did'. Dr. Rabson has taken no formal public action toward Dr. Graves and the peoples' demands for immediate program review. Dr. Alan Rabson did disclose the primary architects of the U.S. Special Virus Flow Chart to Dr. Graves, they are now deceased.

Dr. Graves leadership and activism has convinced some in Congress to review the program. Dr. Graves continues to educate Congress reproducing the policies, laws, and their secret U.S. Special Virus progress reports using all revenues from book and video sales. Congress persons are being educated on the secret program he Dr. Graves helped uncover. Last week Congressman James Trafficant (OH) came out in support of the peoples' demands for program review. "The Congressman has agreed to ask for an investigation by the GAO or the Congressional Committee on Investigations," said Trafficant's Regional Director Anthony Traficanti. " The information presented by Dr. Graves is very shocking and very revealing, Our government is supposed to be sensitive to the peoples concerns and the flowchart was very revealing to me, " said Traficanti.

Dr. Graves has provided the Flow Chart free online for the reading public on his website www.boydgraves.com since February of 2001, with volumes of additional primary source research materials available for purchase or donation to the peoples' grass roots movement toward immediate review.

"It’s interesting that the first cases of AIDS were discovered in 1981 and now it appears that the research reveals that it’s existence goes back over 20 years. But since we have the Tuskegee Experiment, it may not be a coincidence" said Trafficant's office.

Since 1999 Dr. Graves has presented the secret U.S. Special Virus Cancer Program Research Logic Flow Chart to The President of the United States, The United Nations, The Pentagon, The U.S. Surgeon General's office, The United States' Supreme Court, and U.S. Special Virus Program contracted scientists and HIV/AIDS 'co-discoverers' Dr. Robert C. Gallo and Dr. Luc Montangier, as well as Special Virus scientists Dr. Peter Duesberg, Dr. Alan Rabson, Dr. Mathilde Krhim, Dr. Garth Nicolson.

The U.S. Special Virus Flow Chart and many shocking documents are now available in his new book, "STATE ORIGIN: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS" (N.O.A.H. -Zygote Media Networks 2001 ISBN # 0-9707735-1-X )

The second part of Mr. Bryant's nationally syndicated show, Dynamics in Black will air Sunday August 5, 2001 at 6:00 on WFMJ-NBC. Check local station for air times.

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1 posted on 11/23/2001 1:41:24 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Where's the tin foil ALERT for this paranoia????

2 posted on 11/23/2001 1:48:30 PM PST by WOSG
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Looks like the TWA 800 crowd can ratchet up their paranoia level another notch.

3 posted on 11/23/2001 1:50:22 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik
how can you even compair this to flight 800?

5 posted on 11/23/2001 1:54:27 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
The X-Files fans have been a little skittish since David Duchovny left the show.

6 posted on 11/23/2001 1:54:57 PM PST by Goodness Gracious
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THATS WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE RESPOSABLE FOR THE WORLDS CHAOS
IT DESERVES ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THE LAUGHOUTLOUD HALL OF SHAME

7 posted on 11/23/2001 1:55:36 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Only the Democrats are nasty enough to do something like this, and why would they want to kill of all the people who vote for them? :-)

8 posted on 11/23/2001 1:56:35 PM PST by Cicero
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
White's don't share needles, have sex, or get donated blood?
I wouldn't be surprised if Jesse, Al, or Kwesi was behind the manufacture of this tripe. Anything to keep their slaves dependent and scared.

9 posted on 11/23/2001 1:56:55 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Never trust a lawyer who refers to himself as Dr because of their JD.
Also, if they use both the JD and Dr in their name, they REALLY shouldn't be trusted.

This guys bio doesn't mention any Phd, just a BS in an unnamed subject (with a couple of minors in engineering and Chinese) and his law degree.

10 posted on 11/23/2001 1:57:24 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
LOL! $25 per video explaining the tripe, too! Can't let important 'information' get out without making a little off the top, now can we? Incredible.

11 posted on 11/23/2001 1:59:13 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: AlaskaErik
What? TWA 800? Oh oh, that was the aircraft with the bad gas tank, that just blew to pieces, right?

12 posted on 11/23/2001 1:59:27 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: AlaskaErik
Looks like the TWA 800 crowd can ratchet up their paranoia level another notch.
Well, you can add Senator John Kerry to the paranoid crowd, who doesn't believe the official report on TWA800. Here's his response to a question from Chris Matthews on Hardball September 24th, 2001:

MATTHEWS: What do you make of that case where they--where the passengers heading west to Salt Lake City said they wouldn't get on a plane with these guys? They turned out to be--I think they were Hindu--they weren't even Islamic people.

Sen. KERRY: Well, it's sad but it's understandable. I mean, there obviously is fear abroad in the land. We have to curb that fear. I think those of us in Washington really have a responsibility here, Chris, to balance our rhetoric and to balance the definitions of this war with the realities of what we face in the country. You know, we've had terrorism for a long time now. We've had the Achille Lauro, the Munich Olympics, the pipe bomb at the Olympics in Atlanta, the TWA 800, the bombing of embassies, and it's not going to disappear overnight. We've always been threatened by it. What's different here, obviously, is the nature of these individuals and what they were willing to do in order to hurt us here at home. We can, I think, most protect ourselves by carrying on with our way of life, with a higher state of vigilance about what's going on around us, but mostly by increasing the capacity of our country to gather intelligence and to fight this at its source, to fight this in other places before they get here and to do a much much better work of international policing and of anti-terrorist effort by fighting it abroad.

13 posted on 11/23/2001 2:00:46 PM PST by Excuse_Me
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
I think GRAVES is looking to blame someone for the fact he has AIDS.

14 posted on 11/23/2001 2:01:00 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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how can you even compair this to flight 800?
I'm referring to those who so desperately want to believe that TWA was downed by the government.

15 posted on 11/23/2001 2:01:04 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
yeah, right.
and the government planned the terrorist attacks to keep the media occupied with trivial pursuits instead of reporting this wonderful piece of work.

16 posted on 11/23/2001 2:01:38 PM PST by mlocher
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Critical foil moment!

17 posted on 11/23/2001 2:02:33 PM PST by Petronski
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This has been around for some time. I looks to me as it is just another of the 'urban tales' that surface from time to time.

18 posted on 11/23/2001 2:03:55 PM PST by vladog
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More scientists and doctors must join with Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Strecker, Dr. Cantwell, Dr. Horowitz, Dr. Lee, Dr. Wainwright, Dr. Halstead and Professor Boyle
What? And ruin their reputation as well? You don't just need tin foil for this. You need some form of heavy metal shielding

19 posted on 11/23/2001 2:05:24 PM PST by billbears
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To: AlaskaErik
I'm referring to those who so desperately want to believe that TWA was downed by the government.
I guess that would be similar to those who so desperately want to believe it was just an accident.

20 posted on 11/23/2001 2:07:24 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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I am not discounting anything in flight 800 I know one thing for sure there is a government cover up relating to that crash. Gas tank blows up in mid air its more likely a cars gas tanks would blow up then an airplanes and I never even heard of it happening to a car without something hitting the tank.

21 posted on 11/23/2001 2:08:59 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
In the late '80s or early '90s, National Geographic ran a feature on some of the epidemiologists working on the AIDS issues. While I do not remember the details, I do remember reading at that time, that a Scandinavian (Norwegian?) sailor had died in the late '50s when his immune system had shut down. The malfunction was so complete and catastrophic, and the physicians had been unable to identify the cause. Various tissue samples had been preserved in paraffin, and sure enough, 30+ years later, HIV was identified as present in the tissue. Kind of shuts down the 1970s origin hinted at here.

22 posted on 11/23/2001 2:09:00 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Petronski
I was wondering why the hell I just got a "cookie" alert from a reynolds wrap site.

23 posted on 11/23/2001 2:19:25 PM PST by okie_tech
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
"a secret federal virus program produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS"
Given that "AIDS" is the name of the condition produced by the Human Immunodeficiency Virus- "HIV" this post is analagous to saying the program produced 15,000 gallons of runny noses and sneezing in reference to a rinovirus culturing program.

Idiot. Ape.

24 posted on 11/23/2001 2:23:37 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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In 1977, a secret federal virus program produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS. The record reveals the United States was represented by Dr. Robert Gallo and the USSR was represented by Dr. Novakhatskiy of the diabolical Ivanosky Institute. On August 21, 1999, the world first saw the flowchart of the plot to thin the Black Population.
I think this is the same stuff that was marketed as Tropical Fantasy. But it was in two liter bottles, not gallons. (AIDS by the gallon? I don't think so.) Dr. Robert Gallo must be one of the Gallo Bros. of Napa Valley, CA who are big in the beverage business. Anyway, I'm sure the fine details of the program could be obtained from Maxine Waters, Screwy Louie Farrakhan or Leonard Jeffries. I do remember that the potency of Tropical Fantasy was increased by wrapping the jug in tinfoil. ('Course I could be wrong.)

America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
Download 8 Mb zip file here (50 minute video)

25 posted on 11/23/2001 2:24:14 PM PST by JCG
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To: okie_tech
I was wondering why the hell I just got a "cookie" alert from a reynolds wrap site.
LOL! Kind of a Catch-22? One wants the tinfoil out of a sense of paranoia, but in order to get the foil, one must submit to surveillance. Bwa ha ha ha!

26 posted on 11/23/2001 2:45:16 PM PST by Petronski
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Dr. Robert Gallo must be one of the Gallo Bros. of Napa Valley, CA who are big in the beverage business
We'll serve no whine, before it's time...

27 posted on 11/23/2001 2:49:43 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Petronski
My brotherinlaw gace a nearly new box of tin foil he found in a dorm room that he was doing some repair work on. It was summer break. The rool is 18" X 1000 feet. Only other thing there was a vote for BOWBOW Boxer bumper snicker. (?????)

29 posted on 11/23/2001 3:03:09 PM PST by tubebender
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No, it's not true. AIDS has been around longer than that, we just didn't know about it. I remember reading of a sailor who died in 1955, whose tissue samples showed the presence of the virus.

30 posted on 11/23/2001 3:06:57 PM PST by juliabrock
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
REPENT.........REPENT ALL OF YOU!!!!!The evil American Empire is to blame for all the evils of the world. Actually,Notice how David Rockefeller's Name appeared on this????????????
"A Colombian Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis.....and all Challengers shall be DESTROYED"

Pay No heed to these Infidels Atomic-Punk,For knowledge is the key to life.
Free the Sheeple
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Just Say No to the NWO
COMRADE DAGOSAVITCH
OCCUPIED USSA

31 posted on 11/23/2001 3:07:59 PM PST by DAGO
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The is non sense, of course. HIV is a stupidly slow virus to be a result of germ warfare since it would take years to kill off the victims. Armys have indeed been stopped by gonorrhea (painful to pee) and syphillis (early syphillis caused high fevers, although by 1700 the disease became less severe) but you could catch HIV and win a war three times over before you got sick. Plain ordinary typhus and plague would have been much more efficient.(and how did it get lose in the community? Did Gallo have sex with one of the chimps? and then have sex with the prostitutes on the TransAfrican highway, where the epidemic started? It boggles the mind...)
A better "conspiracy" theory is that early polio vaccine which was grown in monkey kidneys was the source of the infection

What goes against all of this is that there have been HIV cases that date at least to the 1950s in the US, and when the examined the blood that was frozen from an epidemic in Central Africa in the 1950's, they found many positive HIV tests. Since Africans in that area kill, skin, and eat monkey meat, it's probably that the virus was around but didn't go too far until the civil unrest of the 1960's and the trans african highway complete with truck stop ladies made it possible to move all over the place.

FYI: I saw cases of illness in Africa in the early 1970 s that was probably HIV, but we only knew that the young people died when there was no reason for them to die.

32 posted on 11/23/2001 3:11:28 PM PST by LadyDoc
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Wow. I'm convinced! That flowchart is conclusive.

33 posted on 11/23/2001 3:16:30 PM PST by ffrancone
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36 posted on 11/23/2001 3:50:30 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Glasser
Paragraphs are our friends. Learn to format your posts.

38 posted on 11/23/2001 4:04:52 PM PST by boris
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What? TWA 800? Oh oh, that was the aircraft with the bad gas tank, that just blew to pieces, right?
For your EDIFICATION because I *know* you can't find this stuff on your own ...
1.18.1 Accident Record and History of Fuel Tank Fires/Explosions on Airplanes
The Safety Board has participated in the investigation of several aviation accidents/incidents involving fuel tank explosions. According to a list prepared by the FAA, since 1959 there have been at least 26 documented fuel tank explosions/fires in military and civilian transport-category airplanes ...

The Safety Board conducted a special investigation of the May 9, 1976, accident involving an Iranian Air Force 747-131, as it approached Madrid, Spain, following a flight from Iran. All 17 people on board the airplane were killed, and the airplane was destroyed. Witnesses reported seeing lightning strike the left wing, followed by fire, explosion, and separation of the outboard wing before the airplane crashed. Examination of the wreckage revealed evidence of an explosion that originated in at least one of the left wing fuel tanks near a fuel valve installation. The airplane.s fuel tanks contained a mixture of JP-4 and Jet A fuel. The Board's report noted that almost all of the electrical current of a lightning strike would have been conducted through the aluminum structure around the ullage but discussed how some energy might have entered the fuel tanks. Although the Board's report did not identify a specific point of ignition within the tank, it noted that discharges could produce sufficient electrical energy to ignite the fuel/air mixture and that energy levels required to produce a spark will not necessarily damage metal or leave marks at the point of ignition. Upward flowing burn patterns were observed on the compensator that the FAA considered a potential ignition source for the surge tank fire.

The Safety Board also participated in the investigation of a May 11, 1990, accident, involving a Philippine Airlines 737-300 at Ninoy Aquino International Airport, Manila, Philippines, in which the Jet A fuel/air mixture in the CWT exploded as the airplane was being pushed back from the gate. Of the 120 people on board the airplane, 8 were killed, and 30 were seriously injured. As a result of this accident, the Safety Board issued Safety Recommendations A-90-100 through -103 to the FAA. In its safety recommendation letter, the Board noted that the exact source of ignition had not been established. However, lightning damage and damaged FQIS wires were found. The Board stated that "it is possible that the combination of a faulty float switch and damaged wires providing a continuous power supply to the float switch may have caused an electrical arc or overheating of the switch leading to the ignition of the center fuel tank vapor".

39 posted on 11/23/2001 4:05:12 PM PST by _Jim
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Well, you can add Senator John Kerry to the paranoid crowd, who doesn't believe the official report on TWA800. Here's his response to a question from Chris Matthews on Hardball September 24th, 2001:
You can add Georgie Snuffolupagus to the list also, because he said the exact same thing.

40 posted on 11/23/2001 4:20:19 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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Pretty good memory there Joe, here is the story from www.stanford.edu -
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THE MANCHESTER SAILOR
New York, October 1992

Koprowski was furious.

The article in Rolling Stone had drawn widespread attention, particularly after a major wire service picked up the story and sent it around the world.

As far as Koprowski was concerned, the article threatened to destroy his life's work. He fired off a letter to Science magazine, vehemently dismissing the theory as "the wildest of lay speculation." Then he sued Curtis and Rolling Stone for defamation.

Meanwhile, the Wistar Institute assembled a panel of experts to investigate the central allegations in the Rolling Stone theory.

Six months later, in October 1992, the panel held a press conference in New York to deliver an eight-page report on their findings.

The six experts concluded that the chance that any SIV survived the vaccine tissue culture process "cannot be discounted" but any concentration of SIV particles would have been "extremely low."

Furthermore, the panel noted, oral transmission of SIV/HIV is "extremely rare," and the genetic age of HIV suggested that the virus had existed in humans many years before the vaccination campaign in the late 1950s.

But "the most telling evidence," the six-member panel concluded, "was the case of the Manchester sailor."

The sailor was a British printer named David Carr, who had served in the Royal Navy in the 1950s. In 1958 he was stricken with a mysterious illness and died a year later, suffering from a number of characteristic AIDS symptoms.

His puzzled doctors preserved 50 tissue samples in small paraffin blocks. When some of the specimens were examined in 1990, cells stored in the wax tested positive for HIV, making Carr the earliest known case of AIDS, apparently contracting the disease at least several years before the 1959 Leopoldville case.

The Wistar experts noted that Carr had completed his naval service and returned to England by early 1957 before the Wistar vaccination campaign had begun. "Therefore," the panel said, "it can be said with almost complete certainty that the large polio vaccine trial begun late in 1957 in Congo was not the origin of AIDS."

The report seemed to exonerate Koprowski. But the panel recommended that monkey tissue no longer be used in the manufacture of vaccines because of the risk of contamination from "other monkey viruses which have not yet been discovered."

It also suggested that independent tests be run on a remaining sample of the Wistar vaccine stock that may have been used in Africa to see whether it contained any SIV.

Later, Rolling Stone settled Koproski's lawsuit by publishing a clarification saying it never intended to suggest there was "scientific proof" the vaccine caused AIDS.

41 posted on 11/23/2001 4:35:24 PM PST by HighWheeler
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NICE CATCH ON THEIR TECHNICAL GOOF!!!

42 posted on 11/23/2001 4:36:52 PM PST by HighWheeler
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Since HIV doesn't CAUSE AIDs, and AIDs is not a sexually-transmitted disease, who gives a rat's ass!

43 posted on 11/23/2001 4:42:12 PM PST by Doc Savage
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This has nothing to do with two terrorists in a boat with a Stinger. This has to do with the well rounded rumour (Started away back in the 80's by a Democrat if memory serves right.) that states that we 'made' the HIV virus. Umm... effeciently bio-engineering such a bug was beyond 70's and 80's tech. late 80's maybe not. bio-tech corn was first being tested then. But not a virus. And flight 800 was, indeed, a terrorist attack. Everyone keep repeating the mantra of wiring fault.. they might believe it.

44 posted on 11/23/2001 4:54:12 PM PST by Darksheare
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"I'm referring to those who so desperately want to believe that TWA was downed by the government"
Was the US Navy in the immediate vicinity of TWA 800? Did the government initially deny the Navy was in the vicinity?

45 posted on 11/23/2001 4:56:47 PM PST by Tymesup
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If they truly believed that, they would have grounded ALL 747's fleetwide. They didn't. That means something. Try to think what that means. Get back to us when you can understand the relevance of it all. Hmm.. in the meantime, take this compass and this magnet and go navigate those woods over there. Don't stop till you find the wiseman. *Geez.. another who actually believes the CLINTON version of things*

46 posted on 11/23/2001 4:59:38 PM PST by Darksheare
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I agree.......

47 posted on 11/23/2001 5:02:16 PM PST by freekitty
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To: _Jim
Give it a break........

48 posted on 11/23/2001 5:05:03 PM PST by watcher1
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To: Darksheare
effeciently bio-engineering such a bug was beyond 70's and 80's tech. late 80's maybe not. bio-tech corn was first being tested then. But not a virus.
I suspect that designing a biological agent that would target people of recent African descent and the rest of us remains far beyond our capabilities now, let alone20+ years ago.

Big difference between slapping a gene into a genome higgly piggly, and designing a virus to target bung boys and africans.

49 posted on 11/23/2001 5:35:20 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Another attempt to form support for reparations?
I'm no expert on AIDS, but I do not remember reading that minorities have an exclusive copyright to it.Besides, after 30+ years the decimation of stated victims should be blatantly obvious and well on its way to completion--or maybe not,since the govt. has been in charge.

Anyone want to join me in mfg.heavy duty aluminum helmets? Tinfoil just won't do the job for this.

vaudine

50 posted on 11/23/2001 5:53:18 PM PST by vaudine
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